Suspended student disputes disciplinary action

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A 56-year-old Oakland University student, banned from campus for a year for writing in course assignments about his sexual attraction to a female professor, has enlisted the help of a Philadelphia foundation that argues the man’s constitutional right to free speech is being violated.

The Oakland Post is withholding the names of the student and the instructor due to the sensitive nature of the subject, although the man’s name and samples of his writing are included in a press release issued Friday by The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

FIRE is encouraging free-speech advocates to send protest emails to OU President Gary Russi.

The student was accused of violating ordinance number 6.02 (unlawful individual activities) of the University Ordinances and Regulations, according to emails from the Dean’s Office, which were made public Friday in a press release from FIRE.

According to the dean’s office document, the student has been given persona non grata status at OU and is suspended for the remainder of the 2012 school year. He will be allowed to register after his suspension only if he undergoes “counseling … to work on sensitivity issues.”

The press release stated that the student was suspended from his Advanced Critical Writing course after he wrote about his feelings of sexual attraction towards his instructor in an ongoing assignment.

FIRE’s senior vice president Robert Shibley declared the suspension a violation of student rights.

“Oakland University violated (the student’s) rights when it decided to punish him for his constitutionally protected expression in class,” Shibley said. “(The student’s) journal did not threaten anyone or contain anything that met the legal definition of harassment.”

In a response to FIRE’s press release, Sherry Wynn Perdue, the director of the OU Writing Center and the instructor’s immediate supervisor, said the FIRE report was misleading and “victimized” the instructor.

The student “never once addressed the course readings but instead used it as a platform to sexualize the instructor, describe his sexual relationship (or lack thereof) with his wife, write about a student in the course, and compose a fake letter from the course instructor to himself in which he admits that his entries are inappropriate and would be met with a visit to the Dean of Students,” Perdue said.

The student described the assignment, entitled a “daybook” by the course syllabus, as a journal to keep track of essays, first impressions, thoughts and free thinking.

He was suspended for two journal entries in the daybook written under the title, “Hot for Teacher,” which described his sexual struggles and his own sexual attractions to the instructor and previous instructors. He described his inability to concentrate due to her physical attraction and described his reaction when she first entered the room, to which “(he said) to (himself), drop mother——, drop.”

In a separate entry in the same notebook, the student called his instructor “my Ginger,” referring to the character from “Gilligan’s Island,” and he referred to a previous instructor as “my Maryanne.”

The student argues his constitutional right of free speech was violated and that the instructor said there were no restrictions in the writing.

The Office of the Dean of Students has declined to comment on the matter, due to the private nature concerning a student.

FIRE’s press release is located here.

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  • Ima Student

    What a hoot! Normally I am appalled by ridicule, but he did everything but write the script of an SNL parody this week. Thank you for sharing it, Anonoymous.

  • not a fan

    wow joe…i went and looked up the pdf from your latest post. the intent of that email is not at all what you imply it is in that post. you took two sentences out that email and combined them to form something that was not the intent of the email.

    unless you have really, really poor reading comprehension skills it looks like you intentionally tried to mislead the prospective reader with what you did…not good!!!

    you do realize this is a university newspaper thread right? the people reading it are likely to be students with well developed critical reading skills. you are making a terrible case for yourself as the good guy here…and this is coming from someone who supported you earlier.

  • Jeffery the Referee

    So 152 posts later it looks like it over and here are the scores:

    Comments from Joe himself: 11
    Comments from people other than Joe who support him: 9
    Comments that appear neutral in support: 7
    Comments that are crosstalk between posters: 6
    Comments from people who disagree with Joe: 119

    Totals
    ——
    Pro Joe: 20
    Against Joe: 119
    Neutral: 16

    That makes for roughly a 6 to 1 ratio of public opinion against Joe.

    Now looking at the arguments won or lost instead of just counting opinions and scoring it like a debate, Joe and his side have been pretty much savaged.

    Hey Joe…your peers have spoken. Got the message yet?

  • S. Roberts

    @Jeffery the Referee

    Funny, but you need to fix the math in your “Totals” column:

    20 + 119 + 16 = 155 not 152

    The error is from the 16 addend in the calculation. 7 neutral + 6 crosstalk comments = 13 not 16. Changing out the 16 for 13 yields:

    20 + 119 + 13 = 152

    The restated Totals column from the fixed addend (not including your post or this one) should be:

    Pro = 20
    Con = 119
    Neutral = 13

  • Joseph Corlett

    December 7, 2011

    Joseph Corlett
    1187 Heights Road
    Lake Orion, MI 48362

    Ms. Mary Beth Snyder
    Vice President Student Affairs and Enrollment Management
    Oakland University
    144 Oakland Center
    Rochester, Michigan 48309-4499

    Dear Ms. Snyder:

    I’ve had a chance to digest the letter you presented to me at our meeting this morning with Dean of Students Glenn McIntosh. I struggle with my tone sometimes, so please bear with me. Particularly troubling is your one-sided, guilty-until-proven-innocent attitude: “When taken as a whole, the complaints about your behavior toward women are troubling and must be addressed.” Even the most cursory review of your allegations renders them moot:

    “An incident with student journalists and the editor at the student newspaper, The Post, involving your insistence they print your article on the subject of the Michigan Open Carry debate; and”

    I have an email confirmation of the school newspaper’s agreement to publish my article on gun rights on campus. I wrote the story as an assignment in Journalism class and would be given extra credit if published. The newspaper agreed, but when Gabriel Giffords was shot the paper reneged. There was no hostility whatsoever, just normal give-and-take. They published a subsequent letter-to-the-editor from me on the subject as well as one from another student.

    Earlier, I complained in person to the Editor, Kay Nuygen, that an article in which she said her boyfriend had a “pancake butt” was sexist and that the newspaper would never have printed a male assessment of female breast size. I recommended she apologize to readers and stand by that recommendation. A conversation with a male staff writer who came to her defense was a bit heated, but civil. This happened last fall semester.

    “A late night phone call to a female student in your English 380 class who never gave you her phone number; and”

    Although it is not a crime to call any publicly available telephone number at any hour, if memory serves I did not call much after 10:00 p.m. I called and emailed several classmates that evening. I was in a panic mistakenly thinking I didn’t have an assignment completed that was due the following morning. Megan Hollinger emailed me the next day expressing her family’s displeasure at the timing of my polite message, explained the assignment, and asked that all communication between us be email. I apologized for the call, thanked her for the help, and told her I would not contact her again. I have not.

    “Unsolicited stories of a sexual nature sent to a female faculty member whom you also invited to meet with you privately off campus; and”

    I did ask Dr. Dana Driscoll to meet me off campus, along with her husband, who is also an OU instructor. I was going ask her to be my advisor in my upcoming hearing. Since Ms. Mitzelfeld’s egregious FERPA leak has “poisoned the well”, my choice for advisor has been denied by default. Dr. Driscoll and I were Facebook friends and she eagerly assisted me with writing problems as little as 15 days ago. Any “stories of a sexual nature” sent to her were sent for academic criticism only. If she had any objections to this story, why remain my Facebook friend? Why encourage me to take her Peer Tutoring class? Why help me with writing for other classes? Why not file a complaint about the story within the required deadline? Because until she got wind of Ms. Mitzelfeld’s accusations, she had no objections. That’s why.

    “Numerous written musings of a sexual nature about your female English 380 instructor recorded in your class journal.”

    On the first day of class, Ms. Mitzelfeld explained the Day book assignment using the terms “diary/journal” and wanted unedited work turned in. The Day book explanation in her syllabus urges students to “try out ideas and record impressions and observations” and “freewriting and brainstorming for essay assignments”. I specifically asked Ms. Mitzelfeld if there were any topical restrictions, as I’ve had other professors rule out student sex life accounts (Ms. Rebecca Rivard) and grandmothers (Ms. Linda McClosky). She told the class there were none. Several weeks in, I had class assistant and Writing Center employee Catherine Leider review my Anecdote essay entitled The Boobs I Was Not Supposed To See after class along with Ms. Mitzelfeld. Concerned with its nature, I again asked if there were any topical restrictions and again I was told there were none with Ms. Leider as a witness. Ms. Leider and Ms. Mitzelfeld agreed the title should be changed to My Boobs DVD. I took their advice and scored a 4.0 on the assignment.

    I subsequently wrote an essay entitled Revenge Karaoke, a somewhat dark and amusing tale of the interactions between myself and a young woman in a bar. Ms. Mitzelfeld scored this at 3.9, apparently because I described switching from drinking beer to gin and tonics too awkwardly.

    Ms. Mitzelfeld has had, at minimum, six opportunities to tell me my sexually oriented writing was inappropriate. She took none of them and abandoned her responsibility to set the class tone. Ms. Mitzelfeld is contractually obligated in her labor agreement with the University to advise and counsel students. Had the University had Ms. Mitzelfeld stick to her agreement, we would not be where we are today.

    Does the University see any irony in assigning me Me and Miss Mandible, by Donald Barthelme, in Fiction 303, the story of a boy/man having sexual relations with his teacher while bringing nonacademic conduct charges against me for trying to emulate an assigned writer? Isn’t this why I’m in school? I never suggested a sexual relationship with Ms. Mitzelfeld, yet the University makes student/teacher sexual relations required reading? This is the tremendous educational cost of political correctness and students deserve better.

    I’m sure that after hearing the other side of the story, you’re probably feeling a bit sheepish. If not, you should be. You now know it was the Oakland Post Editor publishing sexism, not me. You now know that Megan’s phone number is public, that I apologized and thanked her and never contacted her again. You now know that I asked Dr. Driscoll to bring her husband to my suggested off-campus meeting. You now know that Ms. Mitzelfeld disregarded at least six chances to set the tone of her class as is her professional responsibility. In short, Ms. Snyder, you and the University have nothing.

    We have a mutual interest in settling this matter as quickly and as quietly as possible. Let’s take a look at what each of us has to offer. You’ve got a longshot harassment case against me and I’ve got a FERPA slam-dunk (or several) against you. I’ve got a case number with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education which may save my recent inheritance from my $250.00-per-hour attorney, and you have all the resources of the state.

    I would entertain the idea of successfully completing University-sponsored advanced sexual harassment training in return for dropping the sexual harassment and intimidation charges against me. I will admit no wrongdoing and the University will have a metaphorical bone to throw to my accuser(s). I will consider dropping my complaints against the University in return for having Acting English Chair Susan Hawkins demonstrate familiarity with the OU Student Handbook and student fairness obligations.

    The University and I will enter into an agreement whereby I will agree not to pursue FERPA violations as long as the University provides new specific FERPA training to covered employees, etc. We could probably work out some sort of confidentiality agreement also with the University covering my attorney fees.
    The University agrees there will be no retaliation against me whatsoever and Dean of Students Glenn McIntosh will send an email acknowledging his recent apology, on behalf of Oakland University, for my humiliating English 380 classroom removal by the OUPD to my classmates, Ms. Megan Hollinger included. I will enroll in Winter, 2012, classes.

    What’s not to like? Everybody walks away a winner except the lawyers. Life presents fleeting opportunities sometimes and we’ve got to take them. If you think we can put something together, please let me know as soon as possible.

    Sincerely,

    Joseph Corlett

    2/28/12 Correction: Ms. Mitzelfeld is not a covered bargaining unit employee as stated, but is required to provide instruction and guidance by the OU Student Handbook as are covered barganing unit employees.

  • Not Lolita

    And yet after that lengthy letter they still tossed you, and you’re still not Stephen King and cannot connect any dots that do not float in your own mind. Oh my the irony, it is indeed thick.

  • Michael J Kaminski

    Just pure garbage… all of it. The writing, the content, the presumptuous “you have nothing,” and again with the grades – too funny.

    What it all still comes down to is that you do not write something sexual that’s directed at the instructor that will be reading and grading it. When being asked if there are any writing restrictions in a class, an instructor will not and should not have to indicate examples (such as this) that would fall under “common sense.” Sexual harassment, in any form, is not acceptable. The bottom line is that she felt sexually harassed by what you wrote.

    You have been weighed; you have been measured; and you have been found wanting.

  • disgusted

    Why are you posting letters to the VP of Student Affairs here? We are sick of your whining. You did wrong. You had a hearing, and you received a punishment. We’ve heard enough of your silliness.

  • We are watching you, Kowboy
  • Sue Danimm

    He posted this same letter over at the “Atheists Today” comment thread, and it was deconstructed pretty well by one of his colleagues there. It’s worth a read, the deconstruction, I mean:

    http://atheiststoday.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=2064&rowstart=60

    I guess what I’m wondering, Joe, is what exactly are your plans from here? Where do you intend to go now that public support has diminished so much? You’ve made it clear how angry and unrepentant you feel. What next?

  • Justice For Joe

    Joe, you are delusional if you thought this was going to get you anything but booted out of school. Writing like this is why attorney’s give warnings to clients like “Don’t say a single word”.

    Okay…I just can’t resist as that concluding paragraph Joe wrote in his latest diatribe is the craziest piece of writing I have seen for some time. It positively begs for satire, so let’s go through that wonderful last paragraph sentence by sentence:

    We have a mutual interest in settling this matter as quickly and as quietly as possible. [Yes, we want you gone, and out of firearms range ASAP]

    Let’s take a look at what each of us has to offer. [Sure, show me all your cards up front]

    You’ve got a longshot harassment case against me and I’ve got a FERPA slam-dunk (or several) against you. [I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Joe]

    I’ve got a case number with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education [and I have a case of beer, which is more useful?]

    which may save my recent inheritance from my $250.00-per-hour attorney, and you have all the resources of the state. [sounds like I win...winning!!!]

    I would entertain the idea of successfully completing University-sponsored advanced sexual harassment training in return for dropping the sexual harassment and intimidation charges against me. [so I pay you to go to someone else's school and then you come back to creep some more?...that is entertaining for us, but not in the way you think]

    I will admit no wrongdoing and the University will have a metaphorical bone to throw to my accuser(s). [even metaphorical bones are tasty...woof woof]

    I will consider dropping my complaints against the University in return for having Acting English Chair Susan Hawkins demonstrate familiarity with the OU Student Handbook and student fairness obligations. [please consider that I want a blue unicorn that defacates fresh candy corn]

    The University and I will enter into an agreement whereby I will agree not to pursue FERPA violations as long as the University provides new specific FERPA training to covered employees, etc. [we already made sure to add more faculty training just so someone like you can't try to game us again]

    We could probably work out some sort of confidentiality agreement also with the University covering my attorney fees. [oh please stop...the laughter...it does hurt so]

    The University agrees there will be no retaliation against me whatsoever and Dean of Students Glenn McIntosh will send an email acknowledging his recent apology, on behalf of Oakland University, for my humiliating English 380 classroom removal by the OUPD to my classmates, Ms. Megan Hollinger included. I will enroll in Winter, 2012, classes. [i was humiliated by my own actions i tell ya...someone please make me whole again]

    What’s not to like? [well...you for a start]

    Everybody walks away a winner except the lawyers. [uhh...more winning!!!]

    Life presents fleeting opportunities sometimes and we’ve got to take them. [barf...so glad you will not be getting that english degree from us. what an embarrassment your flowery prose would be us with future prospective students]

    If you think we can put something together, please let me know as soon as possible. [yes...I think we can get a combination defamation and libel suit against you...are you interested?]

  • Please make it stop

    Q: What was that loud slapping sound just now?

    A: It was the entire OU campus synchronously performing a giant face-palm while reading Joe “Kowboy” Corlett’s latest post.

  • S. Minnix

    Good Lord, I thought this was over already?

    Mr. Corlett, I can not for the life of me wonder why you continue on. Yes, the post HAS done stories about breasts. Dan Simons (the man, the myth, the legend) won an award for his expose on breast cancer “Having Ha-has About Ta-tas”. In that piece, there was plenty of sexual overtone. It wasn’t completely about breast size, but well, different terms for those breasts. If I’m not mistaken, Mr. Simons won second place for that column.

    Seeing as there was a good cause behind it (advocating finding a cure for it) there was no uproar from the campus. It was a well-thought out piece. Maybe you should recheck your facts on that one. Also, editor-in-chief Nguyen was far from sexist. She did not allow harassment and it was not an environment that was toxic or obscene toward women. For the good of the paper, most pieces would have been killed before even going to print in MAJOR circumstances.

    I will not slander or libel you. I fully believe in the notion of “Walk softly, but carry a big stick”. Your continued rants do nothing to further your cause. Even those that are FOR you are starting to turn away quickly.

    On the FOX2 news “Let It Rip” that you were on, the lawyer thought you would have a good chance at a lawsuit. Let it go at that. Find a lawyer and bring a legal case against the university. Let the courts decide the best course of action.

    One thing I do know. Whoever wins this case is going to have an emotional distress lawsuit on top of what’s already there. Either the professor wins, or Mr. Corlett. It’s come too far for an apology.

    The people above can ridicule me all you want, but I am objective here. One of the best classes I have taken at OU is the Media Law JRN-403 that I am currently in. I am NOT a professional, but these are some of the things we talk about every day. There are certain aspects which fall into some pretty fuzzy areas. Does this case resemble the Bethel one? If so, how will the courts rule in that this is a public university? Free speech is protected. I do think there’s a lot more than meets the eye here.

    I really do think if the university loses the case, someone should lose their job for it. There’s no reason for this. It’s a black eye for our school. I have people asking me in SCOTLAND ABOUT THIS CASE!! It’s an international thing now, and the whole thing stinks.

    I would just love for this to end now. But sadly, it won’t….

  • Raymond

    Stop talking, S. Minnix. It’s in your best interest and all of ours.

  • nndd

    Did you REALLY just post the name of the students who had problems with you on a public comment board? I see that only you, Mr. Corlett, have a right to privacy, but not so for anyone else that you’ve drawn into this mess. Despicable.

  • We are watching you, Kowboy

    Speak for yourself, Raymond.

    Watching this fool flail about is only fair to those of us who were sucked into this story by his disgusting efforts to publicize his “case” and emotionally appeal to others at the expense of the true victims – his victims. See my priors posts for my own involvement.

    S. Minnix is correct to challenge Corlett to back his rants with action and to put his money where is mouth is. After all, “a principle is not a principle until it costs you money.”

    So far, all Corlett has presented is innuendo and more intimidation ala the “Occupy Movement”, at the same time as attempting to pretend he has an argument.

    All this from someone who fancies himself to be “Logicman” – hero of the internet: http://www.stonefabricatorsalliance.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=8055

    “In a world filled with delusion and a lack of critical thinking, Logicman stands alone.”

    This guy has littered the internet with his delusions and rants, and in so doing drawn people into observing his implosion. Sorry, but I intend to watch and I agree with S. Minnix to challenge this jerk to step up or back off and apologize to his victims.

  • Not Lolita

    “I have people asking me in SCOTLAND ABOUT THIS CASE!!”

    OBJECTIVELY speaking, I say that sentence could be brushed up a little to make it mean what you think it says.

  • Not Lolita

    I’m sorry, but conflating Kowboy with Occupy is way off unless of course you go for his whole, ‘first they took away my free speech…’ meme.

  • We are watching you, Kowboy

    @Not Lolita –

    “I’m sorry, but conflating Kowboy with Occupy is way off unless of course you go for his whole, ‘first they took away my free speech…’ meme.”

    Not at all.

    Corlett has consistently played the martyr and used tactics and slander the same way OWS has.

    He also plays off of “Men have died on the battlefield for my right to be a creep” as a deflection of his culpability and responsibility for his aberrant and socially-repugnant behavior.

  • Justice for Joe

    “Logicman”…thanks for posting that…indeed a literary treat for the senses.

    I know the last place I would want my junior year English essays going is up on the web. I was a pretty good student, but I knew better that to do something like that because I was after all still a junior year student.

    Seems a little, I don’t know, egotistical but then well beyond egotistical because he appears to have no shame for any of his actions so far either. Seems like a little bit of personality disorder there perhaps?

    So the question of the day is:

    In absolute terms, which one of the two is larger: Kowboy’s ego or that big bag of crazy he carries around with him?

  • Not Lolita

    So why not compare him to any of the GOP contenders then? Sorry, it’s still a ‘fail’ and just not OBJECTIVE. I am well aware of what Joe di Joe Hasn’t Left or Gone Away has said, what claims he and all the rest of us have made and have had a bit of fun at his expense along the way but there is no way that you could attach any parity between the two. Parody perhaps, but even that would be as much a stretch as him lumping himself being in the boat with Hemingway.

  • Justice for Joe

    @Not Lolita

    Please stop using all caps for words in your posts. It actually detracts from your message when all caps are used.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_caps
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

    BTW: this digression and conflict between posters is what trolls feed off, and now I am guilty of it too.

  • Not Lolita

    Dang. There’s a wiki page for this stuff? What next a user manual. That’s a joke son, just a joke. BTW… ooops, btw, there was a point to that digression, mainly that like [+1] OWS or not, they are a movement of folks concerned with a bit loftier [doesn't take much after all] goal than the singular, the lone tome ranger, the Kowboy. Now it’s a nice day out so run on out and play with the garden gnomes will yah.

  • Justice for Joe

    That all caps comment should have been direct at S. Minnix as it started there. Not Lolita was using his comments. My bad…I didn’t track far back enough.

    Self-corrected post etiquette nazi signing off now…

  • Justice for Joe

    Can we go back to the Kowboy satire now please?

    Joe, speak up please, and lead us in the right direction again with your infallible moral compass, and provide a new insight of yours for our entertainment on the journey.

  • Michelle
  • Justice for Joe

    Perfect…seriously perfect. I love it. The use of actual names means that people aren’t feeling as threatened with his histrionics and pseudo-legal proclamations.

    They are finally actually taking a stand. My name will be over there too. Anybody else care to join me?

    http://oaklandpostonline.com/2012/02/29/mouthing-off/sounds-like-the-15-minutes-of-fame-are-running-out/

    Hopefully this will lead to some actual justice for Joe and his behavior at some point.

  • S. Minnix

    I use ALL CAPS when I want to convey a feeling of extra emphasis. I don’t see anything wrong with that. IT’S NOT LIKE I AM WRITING LIKE THIS, AM I? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO?

    Raymond has the right to say what he wants, but I fail to see where me ceasing to write on here is in my “best interest”. I’m not the one at fault here. I have a right to an opinion. I have the right to state that opinion if I want. Period.

    The Figurski piece is very good. The last three Mouthing Off Editors have been spectacular. Dan, Rory, and Brian are keeping the fine tradition of the “back page” going strong.

    I just know that it will go to the courts to decide. Remember, he got banned for “threatening conduct” according to this week’s Post. There would have to be a very severe pattern for that to constitute a full calendar year ban.

    The only way I can justify that kind of suspension is: A. If he physically threatened someone on campus (either with or without weapon). B. If he specifically told a female (in very disparaging terms) that he was attracted and made unwanted sexual advances (touching, grabbing, etc.) or C. Made threats to people about destructing campus property (bombing or other vandalism).

    Maybe I’m wrong here. But I just don’t see three semesters AND sensitivity training as a proper punishment here. What people don’t get is, I do not defend Mr. Corlett (I’ll say it for the umpteenth time now) but something is foul in Grizzly nation here. There were so many other ways this could have been handled. This should have never made national news. If the professor had given him a 0.0 on the premise his work was inappropriate in the school setting, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF IT (yes, all caps!).

    Let him try to appeal at that point. Most of the time (roughly 99%) appeals are unsuccessful. If he got a lawyer then, it would be about an academic matter, and not a civil one. I think that’s where I have a hard time here.

    Most of you are correct. It isn’t behavior that would be consistent with a college student. However, a year ban is a long time, and for the university to win, they would have to show threatening conduct on Mr. Corlett’s behalf. I’m not sure if there is enough evidence for that.

    I am interested to see what happens next, and if Mr. Corlett will actually go through with all of his talk.

  • Michael J Kaminski

    S. Minnix – As an aspiring journalist (or as any writer whose work will be viewed by any eyes other than his/her own), you must (YOU MUST) find a way to use the language to make your emphasis clearer. It’s all about word choice, syntax, alliteration. Yes, those are more so poetic or literary qualities, but they’re also what gives even the most utilitarian writing (i.e. newspaper articles) volume and strength.

    For example, to say that the English language has gone through periods of change is accurate, but boring and shallow. To say that the language has been consistently bastardized is also accurate, but both interesting and even a bit salacious. This is a bit of a hyperbolic example, and some may not agree with my assessment of English (although I will pull my rank as an advanced degree holder), but you get the idea. “Bastardization” is more effective than CHANGED.

    Also, your aggressive responses are not befitting of a journalist.

  • Matt Lynch

    The reason to the three semester ban is likely what happened in that last meeting. Having been suspended more than once in high school, I know there is some leeway in how sanctions given out in academic settings. I also know based on the stupidity of my actions (don’t ask), there would have been worse outcomes for me had I chosen to take a different approach to those charges against me.

    Speaking from experience, you have to do something pretty dumb, and then say some even dumber things when you are in those meeting for them to take it to that level. Who knows if he didn’t just totally lose his temper in there, and threaten them directly in some way. That recent letter he posted sheds insight on his mindset going into the meeting, and it is far from how I would have gone about it.

    The school did everything they could short of kicking him out permanently as a result of that meeting. I am sure the school’s lawyer or lawyers were in the meeting, and they made sure that everything they did will hold up. That is what they are there for, just like HR lawyers keep companies safe from employees lawsuits when HR problems arise. Have some faith already!

    If he thinks he has a case, let him bring it. It is going to cost him a lot more than spamming message boards with his side of the story.

    The only thing foul in Grizzly nation is Joe’s limited version of the events.

  • Justice for Joe

    @Michael J Kaminski

    Thank you for that. It really was the point I was trying to make. You conveyed it much more successfully than I did. Score one for the advanced degree holder.

    (retired) Netiquette Nazi

  • Grammar Girl

    Really? Ya’ll are debating grammar? That’s for my website. Please don’t waste your deepest grammar thoughts on this story. Save your thunder for my stories: http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/

    It’s my first amendment right to have traffic on my website.

    Sincerely,

    Grammar Girl, just another fighter for the constitution.

  • Not Lolita

    Quick and dirty spam. Somehow almost fitting.

    This film looks to have a couple Kowboy cameo’s; I think the real one is the one in the closing scene.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsamwOs2slI&feature=player_embedded

  • Justice for Joe

    @Grammar Girl – The debate on grammar came about due to the delayed arrival of another noxious delight from Joe. We are lost as a group without his updates.

    Come on Joe, give us another one! Don’t waste your time on all those other random websites you are spamming. Your real fans are here, and wait with bated breath.

  • M. Scott

    I miss the FIRE guy. Can he come back and tell us all how we’re wrong again?

  • Not Lolita

    “I miss the FIRE guy. Can he come back and tell us all how we’re wrong again?”

    Sorry, he’s gone to an undisclosed location to draw up subpoena duces tecum covering the vast conspiracy by Anonymous members of the internets and University to silence Kowboy. Their absence here should convince you of the Truth in what I speak.

  • Sue Danimm

    There’s your next story, Oakland Post — an expose on Fire, calling attention to their deliberate misrepresentation of evidence in order to promote their own ideological agenda at OUs expense. They had documents in their possession that make it clear that this was not a free speech issue and yet they aggressively publicized this as a free speech case. What has this done to the market value of your OU degree? The terms “libel” and “slander” come to mind. Maybe some Oakland Post reporters can contact student reporters at other places where Shibley and friends have tried to start fires under similarly false pretenses.

  • David

    Dude,
    You creeped out your teacher. Use some “common sense”.

  • We are watching you, Kowboy

    Corlett is continuing his campaign of smearing OU and individuals and attempting to garner sympathy.

    He continues to name individuals and staff of OU.

    Fortunately, he is meeting with the same failure he has had in the past.

    http://atheiststoday.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=2064&rowstart=120

    http://www.guitarsquid.com/Latest/qhot-for-teacherq-essay-lands-university-student-a-suspension.html

    Some of the posts are delusional (nothing new), but seemingly more desperate.

    I sincerely hope that OU takes this seriously, and is continuing to provide security and protection to individuals and students in general.

  • Alex

    I also hope that OU is taking this seriously. Perhaps OU should have some sort of notice that if he is seen on campus, OUPD should be contacted immediately. He already received a criminal trespass warning in his official suspension letter so they could detain him right there. A copy of that is on the FIRE website:

    http://thefire.org/public/pdfs/fca09bffc7b510b49eae93b5833477e5.pdf?direct

  • D. Lee

    I am beginning to think that Joe in his various MB forum appearances is now just some cognitive science or comp sci post-doc’s idea of an offensive prank. The average response seems to exhibit most of the characteristics of some strong AI chat-bots I play with in school. They initially provide human responses, but quickly you realize something is more than a bit off. Eventually as an end-user, you get bored with the application as it has such a limited response set and does not appear to learn much, so you shut it off in disgust.

    Perhaps this post-doc at a university somewhere got stuck in their research, and decided they would write a racist, sexist AI chat-bot to irritate random users and drive additional web traffic with their responses. The real Joe is off somewhere, suspended from school, working on his house, and completely unaware that his online persona has been usurped by an offensive chat-bot. I don’t know…it’s just a thought.

  • We are watching you, Kowboy

    @ D. Lee –

    I can understand why you think Corlett may be a bot.

    He drops names, uses words out of context, and cuts and pastes. All to sound “legal” and authoritarian.

    Because he is actually an idiot, it come out as though constructed, much like AI.

    The great thing is that you can see that any intelligence he attempts to display is indeed artificial, and when taken as a whole his stupidity is all too real.

  • D. Lee

    @ We are watching you, Kowboy

    “The great thing is that you can see that any intelligence he attempts to display is indeed artificial, and when taken as a whole his stupidity is all too real.”

    I am not convinced it is not mental illness not stupidity. Whatever the pathology may be, that was one awesomely written sentence of yours there.

  • Joe Must Go

    Please close the thread and remove one more free place on the web for the creep to retell his half-truths and lies. If he want to create his own website and tell his story he can do that somewhere else.

    Don’t allow it to continue here. This drama llama must be starved into submission.

    Joe Must Go!